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Virtual Accountability

07 Thursday Feb 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Accountability, Ministry

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Accountability, virtual accountability

In a previous post, I included John Wesley’s “Rules of the Band Societies.” The post ended up starting a conversation about online accountability, or “virtual” accountability. The conversation went in several different directions, but the conversation particularly stuck with Bart and he ultimately decided to start a blog that would be dedicated as a place where people could check in daily and post their successes, challenges, and requests for prayer.

I am going to participate in this group, and I would like to invite you to consider whether you would like to be involved too. I am excited about this because my interest in the blogosphere is above all else in whether this is a platform that can be used to encourage people to grow in their faith. I think an accountability blog would be a great place to first, be held personally accountable and second, to learn what works and what can be improved for online accountability.

If you are interested, check out the blog Bart created. Bart and I are the only two involved at this point. We would welcome your feedback and suggestions on how this would work better.

Here are some thoughts I have initially:

  • the blog would multiply every time 9 people became involved. As soon as the 9th person joined, the blog would split into 4 and 5. Someone already in the group would agree to start and maintain the new blog. They would all use the same format, so starting it would be very easy.
  • we would create a page with some basic information about each person in the group as a starting point for getting to know each other with each person’s email address so that we can check in if someone drops out for a few days.
  • participants lift up what they want to be accountable for, it is not the other members job to try to root things out. we trust each other to be open as we feel led to be open about the room we have for growth.
  • i haven’t mentioned this to Bart, but i would like to see covenanting to read Scripture daily and pray for group members be a basic commitment that we make for being a part of the group.

I anticipate that this will be fairly organic at first. We will evolve and improve things as we benefit from the collective wisdom of the folks who would like to participate.

How do you think this could be improved? Would you like to participate? (Even if you are not planning on participating, your feedback on what is good and what could be better about this idea would be greatly appreciated.)

Consumerism: The Major Threat to American Christianity

05 Tuesday Feb 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Book Review

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Alan Hirsch, Christianity, consumerism, The Forgotten Ways

Now I understand Matt’s enthusiasm for Alan Hirsch’s book The Forgotten Ways: Reactivating the Missional Church. (Check out this post and this post that Matt wrote.) I may try to write a more organized review later, but for now I just need to tell you to go out and get this book if you haven’t already read it.

Sometimes you read something that you just need to go ahead and post. Hirsch’s thoughts about the threat consumerism poses to Christianity is one of those things:

  • “I have come to believe that the major threat to the viability of our faith is that of consumerism” (106).
  • “Christianity has become a mere matter of private preference rather than that of public truth” (108).
  • “This is our missional context, and I’ve come to believe that in dealing with consumerism we are dealing with an exceedingly powerful enemy propagated by a very sophisticated media machine. This is our situation, but it is also our own personal condition – and it must be dealt with if we are going to be effective in the twenty-first century in the West” (109).
  • “I found out the hard way that if we don’t disciple people, the culture sure will” (111).

This section just hit me pretty hard. Consumerism has become so much a part of our culture, even within the church, that we often don’t even recognize it. Hirsch encourages the Church to remember that “discipleship is all about adherence to Christ” (106). And that should impact everything we do, and how we do it.

Finally, please know that this is not the essence of this book. There is so much more, this is just something that really hit me as I was reading it and wanted to put it out there.

So, what are your thoughts? Is consumerism the major threat to American Christianity? Is Hirsch overreacting?

Vital Signs – Some Thoughts

04 Monday Feb 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Book Review

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Dan Dick, Vital Signs

I just started reading Dan R. Dick’s Vital Signs: A Pathway to Congregational Wholeness. It is one of those books that as I am reading it, I keep thinking, I wish I had had this book when I started my first appointment. In Vital Signs churches are classified into four different types, decaying, dystrophic, retrogressive, and vital congregations. There is a diagnostic tool in the back of the book that is designed to help you identify where your congregations fits. The book is written based on research studying 717 different United Methodist congregations.

I just finished reading the chapter on Retrogressive Congregations. These are congregations that “are highly focused, highly stable congregations that are losing participants” (67). Churches usually only stay in this phase for a while and move from there to decaying or vital. They are retrogressive typically because the church has chosen to increase commitment and focus in a very specific way. This causes many people to leave, but those who stay are more committed than ever before. Thus, in retrogressive congregations the numbers are dropping, while more powerful ministry is happening than has ever previously occurred.

The main critique that Dick gives of these types of churches is that they often fail to balance acts of mercy with acts of piety, usually emphasizing acts of mercy and service at the expense of acts of piety. (Please understand that the point is not at all that acts of mercy are bad. Just that vitality comes from a blend of acts of mercy and acts of piety.)

A few interesting points of interest about retrogressive congregations:

  • Money and Giving: According to Dick’s research the average annual giving of a new member of a retrogressive congregation is $4,271 a year. In vital churches that number is $2,441, dystrophic – $1,487, and decaying – $1,156! That is an amazing difference.
  • Retrogressive congregation’s relationship to the connection: “There is no diplomatic way to describe the relationship of most retrogressive congregations to the connectional system: it’s bad. And where it isn’t bad, it’s worse” (87).

On the poor relationship with the connection Dick further writes:

The leaders of retrogressive churches deeply resent the fact that most connectional and conference leaders continue to measure inputs instead of outputs. Fifty people feeding one thousand hot meals a week is nowhere valued as highly as five hundred people feeding no one” (88).

That quote really brought me up short. Do you think this is true? What are the implications for the church and how we do business if it is true?

Reflections on Five Practices of Fruitful Congregations, Part 2

31 Thursday Jan 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Book Review, Ministry

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Five Practices of Fruitful Congregations, passionate worship, Schnase, worship

The clergy group that I am in met this week to continue our discussion of Bishop Robert Schnase’s Five Practices of Fruitful Congregations. In this post I will continue my reflection on the discussion we had from last week. (Last week’s post discussed the practice of “Radical hospitality.”)

My first comment is that I love that Bishop Schnase mentions in one of the side bars Meri Whitaker’s ministry at Canterbury Chapel in the Oklahoma Indian Missionary Conference. Meri Whitake happens to be one of the people are church intentionally supports as part of our efforts to be connected.

Second, I really reacted to this quote:

It’s amazing how good Christian folk vociferously and antagonistically resist launching a service they don’t plan to attend anyway! It’s not intended for them, and to sabotage the desire for worship of those who have different tastes is like unreasonable diners demanding that their favorite restaurant refuse to serve chicken to anyone, anytime, forever, because they prefer beef! (45)

I personally have not had to deal with that situation. But I have heard of far too many people who have. I have a good friend from seminary who was asked to preach at a new contemporary service that a church wanted to start. Even after a full year of that church bearing fruit through folks attending the service, the church still refused to support the service at all. They even refused to allow the money raised during the offering during the worship service to be used to support the basic needs of that service. My friend, who had been serving as a volunteer, was finally forced to realize that the church was not really interested in this service (even though it was being strongly attended!) and he had to step aside because he could no longer support it with his own resources.

Stories like that are probably easy for any of us to see as pretty ridiculous. But it is startling to realize that the people in that church did not see that they were doing anything wrong. I hope and pray I am not doing anything to quench the Spirit’s work in our worship service.

The final thought I had from this chapter was a sort of canary in the coal mine. “When a congregation loses touch with the purpose of worship, people come and go without receiving God” (37).

I think this is very difficult to measure as the pastor, at least on a week by week basis. But, I think far too many people come to worship today out of habit or out of a sense of obligation. I yearn for more and more congregations that have not just leadership that expects and desires passionate worship, but that have churches filled with people who have come expecting to encounter God’s holy and life-giving presence.

I would be blessed if you would share experiences or ways in which you have seen congregations move towards passionate worship. And of course, please share any other thoughts you have.

You can also read more at the “Five Practices of Fruitful Congregations blog.”

Where Do You Feel Safe To Share the Journey?

30 Wednesday Jan 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Ministry

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AA, Sharing the Journey, small groups, Wuthnow

I am reading Robert Wuthnow’s Sharing the Journey: Support Groups and America’s New Quest for Community. It relates to my general interest in small groups and has been a very interesting read so far. I just came across this quote that I wanted to share:

They understand what these feelings are like. They have experienced them too. They don’t tell him he shouldn’t have them, or even try to make them go away. They just share the journey, whether it is one of triumph or of trial. This solidarity, more than anything else, was the reason Frank became involved. (168)

What kind of small group would you guess this was?

Alcoholics Anonymous.

It is interesting that the most powerful story of “sharing the journey” that Wuthnow has shared so far has been the story of someone who is actively involved in AA. In some ways this isn’t surprising because AA has had a wonderful impact on so many people’s lives.

But this made me wonder why the church doesn’t do a better job of just walking with people through their lives. I wonder if many people don’t need the church to try to fix them, but they need to be loved and supported as they journey through life. It strikes me that it is our job to walk with people and do the best that we can to simply point to Jesus along the way. And wouldn’t this be freeing? We don’t have to fix everything, we don’t have to solve every problem. The man in the story above, at least, just needed someone to share his journey with.

Where have you felt safe to share the journey of your life? What do you think the church could do in order to more effectively become a place where people can find support, solidarity, love, and companionship?

If You Could Only Read One Book on Discipleship…

30 Wednesday Jan 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Uncategorized

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I am really enjoying the feedback and conversation from these book recommendations. So, at the risk of beating a dead horse, I thought I would try another one.

What one book on discipleship would you recommend? Again, there are a few different ways you could go with this, but I will leave that up to you.

This is the hardest question for me to answer yet. So, with the caveat that my answer may change as I think about this more throughout the day, I am going to say the one book I would recommend on discipleship would be The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard. It is not a fast read, but I remember it being profound. It is one of those rare books I want to read again. Willard really lifted up the depth of what discipleship truly is meant to look like, instead of what we so often settle for.

Ok, your turn.

Edit: I forgot to add links to the previous “If You Could Only Read One Book…” posts, If You Could Only Read One Book on Emergent… and If You Could Only Read One Book on Methodism…

If You Could Only Read One Book on Methodism…

29 Tuesday Jan 2008

Posted by Kevin M. Watson in Book Review

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Methodism

I enjoyed yesterday’s discussion – If You Could Only Read One Book on Emergent – so much, I thought I would try again. This time I am just curious to hear what you would recommend in a different area. So, if you could have someone read only one book on Methodism what would it be?

There are a lot of different directions that you could go with this. Would it be a history of Methodism? A book on Methodist theology? A book on renewing Methodism? I am curious how you would choose from all of this, what would be the one book, and why.

I am going to actually obey my own rules this time, and only pick one book. Here is the one book I would recommend if I could have them read one book on Methodism:

  1. John Wesley’s Sermons: An Anthology, edited by Albert C. Outler and Richard P. Heitzenrater. I would recommend this because I believe this is the best one volume book that would give someone a solid grasp of Methodist theology as well as insight into the passion and zeal that Wesley and the early Methodists had for becoming deeply committed Christians who relied upon God’s grace to enable them to have a relationship with God and to grow in it. My one hesitation is that it is not the most readable book, as it is Wesley’s own sermons in that good olde English. But I am going with this book, because my premise is that I am recommending a book that the person I recommend it to will read.

So, what would you recommend?

If You Could Only Read One Book on Emergent…

28 Monday Jan 2008

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Brian McLaren, Dan Kimball, Emergent

Bart asked a great question in a recent post about They Like Jesus But Not the Church. His question was: If you only had time to read book on “emergent” what would it be?

I wanted to answer this question as a separate post because I am hoping more of you will notice the discussion and contribute your ideas. So, what one book would you recommend on emergent if you could only recommend one?

I am going to immediately break my own rule, because I can see a few different ways of coming at this. So here is the one book I would recommend if you wanted to learn more about emergent but you only had time to read one book:

  1. They Like Jesus But Not the Church by Dan Kimball. I think this books is just a great book, so I want everyone to read it. But I think it also lets you inside Dan Kimball’s heart. It lets you see why the whole emergent conversation matters. I have to confess that this book doesn’t really explicitly deal with emergent at all, so if you are trying to learn about what emerging folks believe, etc., this is not the one book you should read about emergent. But it should be the one book you read to learn about how to better love people who are outside of the church.
  2. A New Kind of Christian by Brian McLaren. My perception is that this is one of the books that really started to gain attention and build momentum for the emerging church movement. This books describes a conversation between a pastor who is close to burnout and someone who helps him rediscover his calling. I have to be honest and say that most of the books I have read like this were somewhat frustrating for me because I wanted them to be a little more concrete. I much preferred McLaren’s A Generous Orthodoxy and The Secret Message of Jesus.

So that is my .02. I am sure that there are other folks out there who have an opinion. What one book about emergent would you recommend if you could only recommend one book?

You can also find more resources at Emergent Village, Dan Kimball’s website, or Brian McLaren’s website.

Are You Living for What You Want to Live for?

25 Friday Jan 2008

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I came across this quote from Thomas Merton in Brian Mahan’s book Forgetting Ourselves on Purpose: Vocation and the Ethics of Ambition:

“If you want to identify me, ask me not where I live, or what I like to eat, or how I comb my hair, but ask me what I think I am living for, in detail, and ask me what I think is keeping me from living fully for the thing I want to live for” (153).

What are you living for? What is keeping you from living fully for the thing that you want to live for? What would it take for you to start living for what you think God wants you to live for?

The General Rules

24 Thursday Jan 2008

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General Rules, Wesley

The Nature, Design, and General Rules of the United Societies
in London, Bristol, Kingswood, and Newcastle upon Tyne
(1743)

1. In the latter end of the year 1739 eight or ten persons came to me in London who appeared to be deeply convinced of sin, and earnestly groaning for redemption. They desired (as did two or three more the next day) that I would spend some time with them in prayer, and advise them how to flee from the wrath to come, which they saw continually hanging over their heads. That we might have more time for this great work I appointed a day when they might all come together, which from thenceforward they did every week, namely, on Thursday, in the evening. To these, and as many more as desired to join them (for their numbers increased daily), I gave those advises from time to time which I judged most needful for them; and we always concluded our meeting with prayer suited to their several necessities.
2. This was the rise of the United Society, first at London, and then in other places. Such a Society is no other than ‘a company of men “having the form, and seeking the power of godliness”, united in order to pray together, to receive the word of exhortation, and to watch over one another in love, that they may help each other to work out their salvation’.
3. That is may the more easily be discerned whether they are indeed working out their own salvation, each Society is divided into smaller companies, called Classes, according to their respective places of abode. There are about twelve persons in every class, one of whom is styled the Leader. It is his business:
(1). To see each person in his class once a week at the least; in order
To receive what they are willing to give toward the relief of the poor;
To inquire how their souls prosper;
To advise, reprove, comfort, or exhort, as occasion may require.
(2). To meet the Minister and the stewards of the Society once a week, in order:
To pay in to the stewards what they have received of their several classes in the week proceeding;
To show their account of what each person has contributed; and
To inform the Minister of any that are sick, or of any that walk disorderly and will not be reproved.
4. There is one only condition previously required in those who desire admission into these societies, ‘a desire to flee from the wrath to come, to be saved from their sins’. But wherever this is really fixed in the soul it will be shown by its fruits. It is therefore expected of all who continue therein that they should continue to evidence their desire of salvation,
First, By doing no harm, by avoiding all evil in every kind — especially that which is most generally practised. Such is:
The taking the name of God in vain.
The profaning the day of the Lord, either by doing ordinary work thereon, or by buying or selling.
Drunkenness, buying or selling spirituous liquors; or drinking them (unless in cases of extreme necessity).
Fighting, quarrelling, brawling; brother ‘going to law’ with brother; returning evil for evil, or railing for railing; the ‘using many words’ in buying or selling.
The buying or selling uncustomed goods.
The giving or taking things on usury.
Uncharitable or unprofitable conversation, especially speaking evil of ministers or those in authority.
Doing to others as we would not they should do unto us.
Doing what we know is not for the glory of God, as,
The ‘putting on of gold or costly apparel’, particularly the wearing of calashes, high-heads, or enormous bonnets;
The taking such diversions as cannot be used in the name of the Lord Jesus,
The singing those songs, or reading those books, which do not tend to the knowledge or love of God;
Softness, and needless self-indulgence;
Laying up treasures upon earth;
Borrowing without a probability of paying: or taking up goods without a probability of paying for them.
5. It is expected of all who continue in these societies that they should continue to evidence their desire of salvation,
Secondly, by doing good, by being in every kind merciful after their power, as they have opportunity doing good of every possible sort and as far as is possible to all men:
To their bodies, of the ability which God giveth, by giving food to the hungry, by clothing the naked, by visiting or helping them that are sick, or in prison.
To their souls, by instructing, reproving, or exhorting all they have any intercourse with; trampling under foot that enthusiastic doctrine of devils, that ‘we are not to do good unless our heart be free to do it.’
By doing good especially to them that are of the household of faith, or groaning so to be; employing them preferably to others, buying one of another, helping each other in business — and that so much the more because the world will love its own, and them only.
By all possible diligence and frugality, that the gospel be not blamed.
By running with patience the race that is set before them; ‘denying themselves, and taking up their cross daily’; submitting to bear the reproach of Christ, to be as the filth and offscouring of the world; and looking that men should ‘say all manner of evil of them falsely, for their Lord’s sake’.
6. It is expected of all who desire to continue in these societies that they should continue to evidence their desire of salvation,
Thirdly, By attending upon all the ordinances of God. Such are:
The public worship of God;
The ministry of the Word, either read or expounded;
The Supper of the Lord;
Family and private prayer;
Searching the Scriptures; and
Fasting, or abstinence.
7. These are the General Rules of our societies; all which we are taught of God to observe, even in his written Word, the only rule, and the sufficient rule, both of our faith and practice. And all these we know his Spirit writes on every truly awakened heart. If there be any among us who observe them not, who habitually break any one of them, let it be made known unto them who watch over that soul, as they that must give account. We will admonish him of the error of his ways. We will bear with him for a season. But if then he repent not, he hath no more place among us. We have delivered our own souls.

John Wesley
Charles Wesley

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